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#61 ONLINE   jhutch

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 08:42 PM

Hahahahaha. This is becoming the most ridiculous story in sports. 






#62 ONLINE   jhutch

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 08:43 PM

He doesn't?  My brother won an NAIA National Championship.  He was the swing lineman, backing up every position other then center.   The starting QB bought his starters and my brother each a $150 bottle of scotch.  This is a college athlete, who makes $0 but still thought enough of his lineman to spend an astronomical amount of money on his hogs.  

 

That definitely does happen. CJ bought his OLine and unreal amount of stuff after his 2,000 yard season. That said - to take a credit card to buy a jet ski. There's no room for that. 


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Posted 05 November 2013 - 08:46 PM

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soooooo not true


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Posted 05 November 2013 - 08:49 PM

http://espn.go.com/n...harassment-case

Yep.


Sure, rolle would be more of a professional to ask the psychological response to what Martin went through than well, ya know, a psychologist. Good call.

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#65 ONLINE   Ryan Sesler

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 08:50 PM

soooooo not true


Shocker.

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 08:56 PM

Shocker.

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#67 OFFLINE   d3vanj

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 09:09 PM

I love bobferg so much..even if I don't agree with him, his posts are hilariously awesome.
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#68 OFFLINE   airmcnair4ever

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 10:44 PM

So, you refuse to make judgements while at the same time saying "This is something that has been overblown"?

None of us know exactly what happened and I could very well be 100% wrong. As could you. I dont feel bad for believing a guy's story(Martin) who really has nothing to gain by lying. You can say the Dolphons were forced to do something, but in reality, no one would have blamed them if they simply said we are going to investigate and withhold comments until we are through and/or let the league handle the issue. They chose to suspend Incognito. The suspension from the team (who by the way knows more than we do) and his silence lead me to think Im not wrong.

 

Are you serious? Are you aware of the Penn State issues? The Dolphins are clearly trying to cover their ass right now so they dont end up paying for it like the Penn State administration did. If they didnt act then they would get accused of contributing to it and suffer consequences. Why would I doubt that Martin is lying? I actually dont think Martin is lying which is why I think its overblown when he told Cognito "It's insane bro, but just know I don't blame you guys at all. It's just the culture around football, and the locker room got to me a little."

 

This is an issue that could have been resolved internally. Just like the Riley Cooper issue. The media is making this worse off for both of them.



#69 OFFLINE   airmcnair4ever

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 10:52 PM

I really hope like hell if you have kids they don't get picked on or bullied or teased. But if they do, and come home crying and don't want to go back to school, you gonna tell them to "quit being a sissy and man the f--k up"? Like most things, people's perception of things generally change if they have a direct personal experience with something.

This just goes into so many levels. How many times do we have to listen to players bitch about not being treated like men by their coaches...but yet they can treat each other like 3rd graders? And the "he hasn't really done anything wrong" statement is so far off. Check out www.NFL.com/incognito that's a lot of anger issues we are just dismissing. Yes, the article is about he was trying to change. I'm guessing he hasn't, he found another outlet, make someone else feel like shit because you don't like yourself. Assumption there, sure, but there are no stories on Martin being a blatant sissy and liar.

 

Of course I would tell my kids to man the fuck up and i would add that they are going to school whether they like it or not. Is that something bad? Are you  not only trying to play god in the NFL now but also playing King parent as well? I would much rather solve a bullying problem between 2 kids and maybe their parents than going to the school or police where we have to get people suspended/expelled and make my kids deal with having to be called snitches or pussies by the rest of the kids for the rest of their school life.


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#70 OFFLINE   airmcnair4ever

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 11:01 PM

Sure, rolle would be more of a professional to ask the psychological response to what Martin went through than well, ya know, a psychologist. Good call.

 

Psychologists= People who take your money to listen to you whine and give you happy drugs that make you high. I mean seriously how many mass shootings have your professional doctors prevented lately?

oops here i go again. Gotta stick to football.



#71 ONLINE   Ryan Sesler

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Posted 06 November 2013 - 12:12 AM

Psychologists= People who take your money to listen to you whine and give you happy drugs that make you high. I mean seriously how many mass shootings have your professional doctors prevented lately?
oops here i go again. Gotta stick to football.


Yep your right, mass shootings haven't been solved so just as in Martin's case according to you all more violence is the answer. Good call.
And not at all playing king parent. My point was if your child, wife, or loved one came to you completely emotional over what they tell you is they are being treated horrible I doubt (I could be wrong) but I doubt that your first response would be something like, seriously, you sure you aren't just being soft. So what if everyone at your work ignores you and calls you names and leaves vm calling you and you families names. Take it as a joke jeez already.

Maybe if all these people doing these things weren't treated like shit they wouldn't in turn treat others that way. Its well documented that incognito was bullied as a kid until his dad told him to quit taking it and be a man and quit being a sissy...shocking he took that too far and ended up with anger issues. Probably something one of those psychologists could have warned his dad about.

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#72 OFFLINE   Cjw

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Posted 06 November 2013 - 12:26 AM

He doesn't? My brother won an NAIA National Championship. He was the swing lineman, backing up every position other then center. The starting QB bought his starters and my brother each a $150 bottle of scotch. This is a college athlete, who makes $0 but still thought enough of his lineman to spend an astronomical amount of money on his hogs.

i must have missed the part where Tannehill won something? If is common for someone who wins something to share the wealth so to speak (AP bought the Oline snowmobiles after last season) but not just because some piece of crap decides he's owed something.
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#73 OFFLINE   Charles Toomajian III

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Posted 06 November 2013 - 12:40 AM

He doesn't?  My brother won an NAIA National Championship.  He was the swing lineman, backing up every position other then center.   The starting QB bought his starters and my brother each a $150 bottle of scotch.  This is a college athlete, who makes $0 but still thought enough of his lineman to spend an astronomical amount of money on his hogs.  

 

Tannehill doesn't owe Incognito anything for doing his job. Incognito gets paid more to protect Tannehill than the secret service gets paid to protect the leader of the free world.  

 

Also, marinate on this for a minute: Incognito makes more than eight times as much money as Tannehill. And he feels the need to steal from his teammate? If this is true, that's indefensible.

 

Oh, and by the way, what he did is a felony.


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Posted 06 November 2013 - 02:06 AM

http://touch.sun-sen...e/p2p-78065907/

And the Incognito as the scapegoat angle is in full play right now.

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#75 OFFLINE   airmcnair4ever

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Posted 06 November 2013 - 02:28 AM

Yep your right, mass shootings haven't been solved so just as in Martin's case according to you all more violence is the answer. Good call.
And not at all playing king parent. My point was if your child, wife, or loved one came to you completely emotional over what they tell you is they are being treated horrible I doubt (I could be wrong) but I doubt that your first response would be something like, seriously, you sure you aren't just being soft. So what if everyone at your work ignores you and calls you names and leaves vm calling you and you families names. Take it as a joke jeez already.

Maybe if all these people doing these things weren't treated like shit they wouldn't in turn treat others that way. Its well documented that incognito was bullied as a kid until his dad told him to quit taking it and be a man and quit being a sissy...shocking he took that too far and ended up with anger issues. Probably something one of those psychologists could have warned his dad about.

 

Where has there been any violence? Am i missing something? Where was Incognito violent towards Martin? Im only aware of harassment. If things were violent then it would be clearly too far. But a grown man just teasing another grown man? C'mon now. And its no big deal that it even got to Martin because Cognito was being a  bit harsh but he could have come to other players about it and they could have resolved it internally instead of having this fiasco.



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Posted 06 November 2013 - 02:30 AM

http://touch.sun-sentinel.com/#section/1204/article/p2p-78065907/

And the Incognito as the scapegoat angle is in full play right now.

Thank you.... and good night.


You article that you just posted said

"Linebacker Dannell Ellerbe indicated that Martin should have come to the leadership council with his problems, which apparently carried over to his second season. The problem is Incognito was also on the leadership council, and possessed a tremendous amount of power and influence.

That might explains why Martin hid his issues with Incognito, and on occasion hung around with him in South Florida, and during road trips. It is possible Martin felt he had to do so to feel accepted."

Again, said a hundred times on here, the bully, name caller, teaser, jokester, asshole, whatever you want to call him doesn't get to decide how his actions affected Martin and Martin's mind. Period.

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#77 ONLINE   Ryan Sesler

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Posted 06 November 2013 - 02:36 AM

Where has there been any violence? Am i missing something? Where was Incognito violent towards Martin? Im only aware of harassment. If things were violent then it would be clearly too far. But a grown man just teasing another grown man? C'mon now. And its no big deal that it even got to Martin because Cognito was being a bit harsh but he could have come to other players about it and they could have resolved it internally instead of having this fiasco.


Haven't seen violence...yet. but incognito has a long long history of violence in and out of the game. Ones his dad almost brags about on the things I was reading. My post below touches on why he probably didn't tell anyone. I think the biggest problem everyone is having is these are two big bad football players. Not the nerdy kid who gets picked on by the jersey kid with an affliction shirt...wait...if you look at these two, maybe it is that still...

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Posted 06 November 2013 - 02:45 AM

Oh man, this series of tweets is killing me. If you know A Few Good Men, you'll enjoy this. I have to include it:



https://twitter.com/Adam_Jacobi/status/397911404251844608
https://twitter.com/Adam_Jacobi/status/397911850962001921
https://twitter.com/Adam_Jacobi/status/397912611414495233
https://twitter.com/Adam_Jacobi/status/397913270557753344
https://twitter.com/Adam_Jacobi/status/397913485155127297
https://twitter.com/Adam_Jacobi/status/397913710804484097
https://twitter.com/Adam_Jacobi/status/397913856690769920
https://twitter.com/Adam_Jacobi/status/397914294907453440
https://twitter.com/Adam_Jacobi/status/397914356454682624
https://twitter.com/Adam_Jacobi/status/397914669957906432
https://twitter.com/Adam_Jacobi/status/397914805819801600
https://twitter.com/Adam_Jacobi/status/397914927282675712
https://twitter.com/Adam_Jacobi/status/397915023227355136
https://twitter.com/Adam_Jacobi/status/397915200621248512
https://twitter.com/Adam_Jacobi/status/397915406746140674

 

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Colonel Joseph R. Philbin, Commanding Officer, National Football League, Miami, Florida.

Have you ever spent time on a football team, son? Ever served on an offensive line? Ever put your block in another lineman's hands, ask him to put his block in yours? We run plays, son. We run plays or people get sacked. Son, we live in a world that has offensive lines, and those lines have to be filled by 350-pound men with helmets. Who's gonna do it? You? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Martin, and you curse the Dolphins' o-line. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what coaches know. That Martin's departure, while tragic, probably saved Ryan Tannehill's life. And Richie Incognito's existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves quarterbacks' lives. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about on Twitter, you want him on that line. YOU NEED HIM ON THAT LINE. We use words like shiver, rip technique, smash. We use those words as a backbone of a life spent defending quarterbacks. You use them as a comment on Pro Football Talk. I have neither the TIME nor the INCLINATION to EXPLAIN MYSELF to a man who rises and sleeps under the fandom of the very team I coach... and then bitches on Twitter about the way I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and bought a season ticket. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a helmet, and stand at left tackle. Either way, I don't give a DAMN what you football fans think you're entitled to. *Did you order the code red?* YOU'RE GOD DAMN RIGHT I DID! - Joe Philbin 


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#79 OFFLINE   airmcnair4ever

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Posted 06 November 2013 - 02:53 AM

You article that you just posted said

"Linebacker Dannell Ellerbe indicated that Martin should have come to the leadership council with his problems, which apparently carried over to his second season. The problem is Incognito was also on the leadership council, and possessed a tremendous amount of power and influence.

That might explains why Martin hid his issues with Incognito, and on occasion hung around with him in South Florida, and during road trips. It is possible Martin felt he had to do so to feel accepted."

Again, said a hundred times on here, the bully, name caller, teaser, jokester, asshole, whatever you want to call him doesn't get to decide how his actions affected Martin and Martin's mind. Period.

 

Ryan your hurting my feelings really bad right now. And since you dont get to decide how your actions affect me, or my mind, I think you need to be banned indefinitely. ( :



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Posted 06 November 2013 - 02:59 AM

Haven't seen violence...yet. but incognito has a long long history of violence in and out of the game. Ones his dad almost brags about on the things I was reading. My post below touches on why he probably didn't tell anyone. I think the biggest problem everyone is having is these are two big bad football players. Not the nerdy kid who gets picked on by the jersey kid with an affliction shirt...wait...if you look at these two, maybe it is that still...

George S Patton was such a horrible bully. He had such a long history of pushing his soldiers too hard. He got in trouble because he bitch smacked a soldier for being a pussy and the soldier told on him. He is such a horrid human being. Oh wait he is probably one of the most famous and popular figures in American history. Gaawwwshh im so confizzled. Lets go ahead and condemn Incognito to hell because of his insensitivity towards others. He is the devil. Lets crucify him.







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